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What are your
thoughts about reading your poetry in Cobourg at the POW! Festival?
I am very excited to be reading at POW in Cobourg. Every now and again
through the energy of a place and its people, who knows what comes first
in that equation, something of major import for the arts happens. Maybe
that place is Stratford Ontario, or Niagara-of-on-the-Lake, or maybe Glyndeborne
in England, or the great reading or book festivals of the world, Dublin
for example, but every once in a while a place and its people rise to
create something that from that initial burst of energy, idea and need,
grows into something important for the country and the world. I see Cobourg
that way. It started with people commited to poetry and writing, and it
is growing. I don't know whether people in Cobourg are aware of this or
not, but the place is talked about throughout the country as a centre
for poetry. But I must say you are very fortunate in having someone who
cares for all this so passionately that it is continually fuelled. James
Pickersgill is someone who is putting Cobourg on the map, embedding it
in the literary landscape. I am flattered to be asked to participate and
I wouldn't miss it for the world. This festival announces the Cobourg
is a centre of creativity and energy.
What are your thoughts about participating in the POW! Festival
as a Poet In The School?
I am very pleased
to be asked to speak and read and write with children and teens in the
schools. The love of poetry should be fostered in youth. young people
and children are receptive emotionally and are close enough to the roots
of our being to appreciate, rhythm, beat, words and thought, and emotion
all combined. They live in a world of popular culture that plays on their
natural abilities and likes. Many have a passion for rap, spoken word
etc., and place for all that in their lives. It is a good starting place
for an even deeper love and appreciation of what words and the music of
words can do. And quite frankly, they are embued with energy and optimism.
I enjoy being with them.
We are excited
that POW! will function as a launch for your brand, spanking new book.
Please tell us about your book and also a little about any other books
you've had that "saw print."
What a happy set of circumstances. The POW festival does coincide with
the launch of my new collection, The Grammar of Distance. Each
collection seems to be a new departure, a new investigation, a revealing.
In this book I look at relationships, father to son, mother to son, lover
to lover, father to dauhghter. But I also examine the universal themes
of history, an examination of who we are as human beings, meaning in terms
of our place in the world. And some of these poems lean towards the metaphysical
too - what is our relationship to time, to the eternal. But as abstract
as all that sounds, I believe my work is accessible. I am never deliberately
obscure. I want people to "get it". Though remember, this is
poetry and poetry is not philosophy or story. Poems are encountered. It
is what they become when translated by the audience or the reader that
matters. It is what they become for you that matters.
As for other books, my last book, The Stone Skippers, was published
in 2007. It was launched in Australia, the UK and Canada. I was very pleased
with the reception it received. People have been very kind. The reviews
have been generous and it was nominated for the Relit Award in 2008 for
the best book of poetry published in the previous year by an independent
press. It will be re-printed later this year. My only other book was a
chapbook published in the UK called A Confession of Birds. So Grammar
of Distance is my third collection.
At POW!, do you plan to solely read pieces from your book? Do you
plan to read other work as well?
Mostly I will read from my new book. But poetry collections always come
out a long way behind what a poet is working on now. I have some poems
from another collection, A Weight of Bees, that I am working on
and may try on my own ear by reading them for the POW audience.
How would you describe your poetry?
It has been described as "hard and succinct". I think that means
that the poems are somewhat emotionally courageous. Well, I do try to
go to those places that many are afraid to go to. Di Brandt says of my
work that it is impetuous, inspired, wild, unadorned, unrepentant, desperate
eloquent
But the poems are not simply expressive of emotion. I would regard that
as failure.
I suppose poems, for
me, are a matter of life and death - at the very least, an act of utter
immersion. Certainly I see them as a journey to the self's deepest places,
and some of those places are dark indeed. I guess I am at that place where
I know no one can save me from my life.
But they are philosophical
as well. I ask the big questions too. But I regard the poems as conversations.
I really am just trying to order things, experience and feeling, and trying
to understand why we are here and who and how we are with each other.
Art orders and reveals.
Maybe it is better
to let others speak about my work. Jeanette Lynes, recently nominated
for a Giller prize, writes "I admire the refusal to shy away from
emotional excess, and the willingness to embrace all manner of the heartland's
hazards and risks. I admire equally the willingness to tackle, head on,
the sheer inescapable fact of our aloneness in this world, and our inevitable
fallibility as humans - our brilliance at messing things up. Despite this,
Burgham's vision is one of compassion, and poetry for him, is a seeing
beyond the limits of our poor decisions." I do see my work that
way, that ultimately it is compassionate.
Al Moritz writes that "the poems have a hardness and succinctness.
This concision, leanness and directness, brings out the emotion in them,
the sense of distance and space and wind-sweep both emotional and imagistic,
wonderfully well. These are poems that stay with one" It seems
self-serving to quote him, but all I want is for the poems to matter to
someone else - "to stay with one". When they do, I am pleased
and know they must hold some value.
When did you
start writing poetry and what prompted it?
I was always interested in rhyme, rhythm, story. Even as a child. My grandfathers
and great grandfathers were poets - loved poetry, so it was something
natural to the house. I tried to assemble my first book when I was nine.
I worked hard at it when I was in my teens. And I loved reading it for
where it took me in my mind. But what initially prompted my love of it
was the music of it. Later it was what it could reveal. It's power. And
what it could do to and with memory and emotion. Poetic logic and meaning
always seemed to embrace what was important and revealed something of
what mattered.
I put it on hold during my life as an editor and publisher in Scotland
and Canada; then as a developer of medical education and information programs.
I was a business man supporting a family of three daughters. There was
no time to sit down to the task of writing. But a business failure, and
a related failure in my faith in my fellow man, prompted the need to write.
It was all I thought of doing and could do as a rescue from that time.
So for ten years now it has been my focus and my obsession. And I can't
leave it even though I find the writing life a hell of a way to live.
That's not a comment on financial compensation by the way. That's a comment
on the nature of writing. It is hard. It is by far the hardest work, both
mentally and psychically, that I have attempted. And socially it is isolating.
What inspires you to put pen to paper / fingers to keyboard?
The need to understand our place in the universe. The need to understand
life in the face of inevitable death. The joy in playing with words and
sound and rhythm. The fascination with what gets revealed. The mystery
of the process. The sense of not being in control but of being a spectator,
in some way, to something bigger than oneself. All these things inspire
me to write.
Can you describe
(a little) your writing process in creating a new poem?
Often it will come from reading a poem and being inspired by an image.
Sometimes a painting, an emotion, a scene. It can come from anywhere.
Sometimes a line just appears in the mind. But once the writing starts
as
long as you can keep the ego and the self out of it, things begin to appear
as thoughts, ideas, inklings, oddments. And they are embodied in images
or by words. And then once you have something that looks as though it
matters, the real work starts.
I can write that first iteration in an hour or an evening or a weekend
or a week. But it takes months to make it right. And sometimes over hundreds
of hours and choices of words, and feelings and ideas it changes and shifts
and becomes itself. In the end, it is just hard industrial labour. Nothing
romantic about that. It is just choices and decision-making over words
and commas. And the risk is that nothing will come of all that at all
and the thing is scrapped. There is nothing romantic about writing poetry.
The POW! Festival is built on the notion that poetry should not
be relegated to an existence as "a niche art form" that the
average person doesn't care about.
How do you respond to that?
Great. I am happy that POW! is serving the community and the world in
that way. Poetry matters. And it matters to everyone if they knew how
to approach it
or that it can be approached. The problem comes from
the experimental poems and those that write obscure stuff deliberately.
The problem also comes from those who pretend it is poetry when it is
mere self-expression. Self-expression doesn't interest anyone but the
person who is expressing it; whereas art is beyond that. It is the manner
by which we can approach the meaning of our existence, the nature of our
existence.
In some cultures it is recognized by the working man or woman as belonging
to them. We need to make that true of Canada. Poetry doesn't change the
world or feed the poor, but it does inform the inner landscape of the
heart.
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